Ladyman, Lambert, and Weisner  (“What is a Complex System“, 2011) consider some form of ordering of a large number of uncoordinated elements to be an important characteristic of complex system. What is less certain is how to describe this order, as various means of describing the states or processes of order may all suffer some epistemic bias, and various methods may need to be employed. They do agree, however, that neither completely ordered or disordered systems can be complex, and that complex systems exhibit features of both order and disorder, with order spontaneously emerging from disorder.